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Denise ([staff profile] denise) wrote in [site community profile] dw_maintenance2017-04-10 05:53 am

The importer is still running, we swear! It's just very busy.

People who are worried because the import of their LiveJournal account has been running for a long time with no real signs of progress: please don't be concerned! The import queue is currently a little long. (In the same way that Mt Everest is a little tall and the Mariana Trench is a little deep.) We're limited in how many import jobs we can run simultaneously and how quickly we can start the next import after one finishes: LiveJournal, like all sites, has restrictions on how frequently we can programmatically request data from their site, so the import queue can get very backed up at times like this when more imports are being started than are finishing. If you look at the import queue and the numbers don't seem to be changing much, or are only going up, it doesn't mean that no imports are finishing: it means a lot of additional people have scheduled an import since the last time you reloaded.

As long as you haven't gotten a failure message in your on-site inbox, your import is still running. (Even if you have gotten a failure message, your import may still be running: if the site thinks that the failure is something that might correct itself, like being unable to connect to the remote site, it will retry for a few times before giving up.) If you have gotten a failure message, the error message in your inbox should tell you what went wrong.

The three common problems right now: 1) you mistyped your username and/or password; 2) you need to agree to LiveJournal's new ToS before they'll permit you to access the data in your account; 3) an entry or entries in your LiveJournal account have a text encoding mismatch and you need to follow the link in the error message to fix it on LJ.

If you haven't gotten a failure message, your import is still waiting in the queue, and will run when it makes its way up to the top of the queue.

People keep asking us how long the queue is (by which they mean, how much time will it take for a job just started to successfully finish: length of time, not number of jobs waiting). I would love to be able to give you a definite answer! It's really, really hard for us to predict how long it will take for a job to get up to the top of the queue, though: how long an import takes to complete depends on a lot of things, including how many posts/comments are in the journal. To give you a ballpark figure that might be off by up to 100% on either side: If I personally started a brand new import right now (in my timezone, the early morning of Monday 10 Apr), I would be pleasantly surprised if it finished before Tuesday morning (24 hours or so), would expect it to finish sometime on Tuesday night or maybe even stretch all the way to Wednesday night (36-60 hours), and wouldn't start to wonder if I should poke [staff profile] mark or [personal profile] alierak to doublecheck that something hadn't gotten stuck in such a way that our monitoring didn't alert us about it until Thursday afternoon or evening (100+ hours).

All of those time estimates, by the way, assume a relatively uncomplicated job that succeeds on the first try. When the site tries again after a failure, it includes a delay that increases after each failure in case the failure was due to transient network issues. So, I know some of you started an import at the end of last week and it's still running: some of you are trying to import very large journals, and some of you ran into errors along the way and are in a retry wait loop. Again: if you haven't gotten the final error message in your inbox (and it will tell you it's the final error), it's still chugging along.

You do not have to leave the importer page open or stay logged into Dreamwidth until your import finishes. (You do have to avoid changing your LJ password until the job is done, or it will fail.) You can close the window/tab and go off and explore Dreamwidth; the movers will be along in a little while with your stuff.

The tl;dr version of my usual longwinded babble: IMPORTER VERY BUSY. MANY PEOPLE MOVING IN. LIKE ON DORM OR APARTMENT MOVE-IN DAY, FREIGHT ELEVATORS VERY SLOW. BUILDING OWNERS RUNNING FREIGHT ELEVATORS AS FAST AS POSSIBLE AND APOLOGIZE FOR THE WAIT.

A housewarming glass of champagne/sparkling cider/fancy handmade soda for all! Welcome to the neighborhood.

EDIT, 10 Apr 2017 7:15PM EDT: the importer is not the only thing that is very busy today! I'm trying to get to all the comments here, but keep getting dragged off to handle other stuff (and will be knocking off for the night soon). If you have a technical support problem, it will probably be faster to open a support request, where there's less likelihood that it will get overlooked in the sea of comments.
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[personal profile] scottopic 2017-04-11 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks both for the information and the service! You may inspire me to kick the writing back up.
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[personal profile] bassnote1 2017-04-11 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Took almost 40 hours for the movers to get my LJ all boxed up, moved over and unpacked. Some of the cuts didn't make it, but I figger than ain't too shabby.
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[personal profile] zenbaker 2017-04-11 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I have imported from LJ but none of my photos made it across? Any idea how to get them here? Thanks :)
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[personal profile] cesy 2017-04-11 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Sadly you can't import Scrapbook photos directly as LJ doesn't provide any easy way to export them.

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[personal profile] doodlesthegreat 2017-04-11 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Confirmed. I started the import on Sunday and all but my entries were done by Monday, so the importer is doing fine. Then this morning I received notice my entries were imported. I never posted a lot on LJ, so that it took this long shows how loaded the system is. Just be patient and all will be well.
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[personal profile] wonsraed 2017-04-11 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi, I claimed my open id and it's been 3 days since and nothing happened?
Where do I report this? Thanks. :D
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[personal profile] cesy 2017-04-11 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Support is best. www.dreamwidth.org/support

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[personal profile] del_rion 2017-04-11 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Scanned the comments but only one of them slightly tackled my question.

So, here goes:

I'm moving/rescuing a very dear community of ours from LJ to DW. It's still sitting in queue (which is fine). However, the two of us usually post at least once a day each, so my question is:

Can we start posting new entries to DW, or will it mess up the upcoming import? Or will the older LJ entries fall behind the new ones made in the currently blank DW comm, obeying their time stamps?

(And, seeing as there's already one post in LJ that was posted AFTER I began the import process, will that one arrive to DW with the rest, or will it be ignored?)

Answer would be very much appreciated so that we can either start posting in DW, or whether we'll still keep posting in LJ and just copy our newest entries once the bulk of the old entries has arrived safely to its new home... :)
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[personal profile] soc_puppet 2017-04-11 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
There's someone on the first page who was told that they were okay to start posting to their personal journal during the import, so I'm pretty sure it'll be okay to start posting to a community during import.

Like, you're already in the new "building", you're just waiting for the rest of your stuff to show up. You can open windows, turn on the lights, and install new bookshelves if you want, I'm pretty sure.

And I think the newer post on LJ will be ignored? You told the movers to pack up all of the stuff that was there at the time and now they're driving over; you may have to get any remaining mail forwarded. Or something.

On the plus side, if I have interpreted correctly and the newer post doesn't come along with the older ones, it is a whole lot shorter to import just a few entries than an entire community's worth. The queue will still take however long it takes, but the entries themselves will take a lot less time to process if there's only a few of them. So another option is to keep posting to LJ for another week or two until the import queue clears out, then re-import just the new entries and start posting here after that. (...Which I now see you already mentioned, because I somehow missed your last paragraph on my first read-through.)

Disclaimer: I am not an official person, I just read all the comments. An official person will probably be by to clarify, correct, and/or add more information if you'd prefer to wait for them.
Edited (Missed something the first time) 2017-04-11 17:53 (UTC)

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[personal profile] octoberphoenix83 2017-04-11 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Nothing productive to add. Just wanted to say Thanks for helping keep this place running. :)
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Thank you so much!

[personal profile] clauclauclaudia 2017-04-11 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a loyal seed user, but haven't been busy here and am only now copying over LJ for the typical reason. Thanks as always for your delightful communication tone. Hang in there!
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[personal profile] malurette 2017-04-11 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for this post and all the hard work!
I already imported my journal & writing community a few years ago and was considering doing a new back-up for the comments I got since on my old LJ entries but seeing how things are at the moment, I'll rather wait a few more weeks so other people can do more urgent imports before.
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Thank you!

[personal profile] tharain 2017-04-11 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for the information. It must be crazy for you all!
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Thank you

[personal profile] ginlindzey 2017-04-11 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I just want to thank you for importing my blog. Yes, it took more than 24 hours but I am just so relieved. Thank you ever so much! Ginny Lindzey

[personal profile] chromakei 2017-04-11 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
2001-2017 LJ user here. Thanks for doing what you do, and this week, being my parachute. As the dust settles, I hope to get to know this place and community in earnest. Stating the obvious, it looks as if 2017 is going to be another year of drinking 'strange days' from a firehose. Let's make the best of it together, For Great Internets!
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[personal profile] sarahmarie 2017-04-12 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for running a great website, with the best user friendly service, ever!! I'm glad to have officially make the switch here. :)
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[personal profile] mrlich 2017-04-12 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for this. Think I got lucky and managed to get in ahead of most of the rush, but it's good to know so I can spread the word.
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[personal profile] twirlgrrl 2017-04-12 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
Question that I have looked and looked but can't find the answer to:

Is there a way to import a certain date range of entries? I had imported my entire LJ a few months ago but forgot to crosspost and now have a couple of straggler entries with comments that I'd like to bring across. How can I do that without reimporting my entire LJ?
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[personal profile] redsgoddes 2017-04-12 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Does it usually take all night long into the next day? I started mine more than 24 hours ago and it STILL is not done.
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[personal profile] achacunsagloire 2017-04-12 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
How many entries/comments do you have coming in? I have 700+ entries and thousands of comments. I got my tags and icons when I started my import 24 hours ago, but still no entries.

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[personal profile] achacunsagloire 2017-04-12 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
I have 700+ entries coming in with thousands of comments. Started my import 24 hours ago. Got my icons and tags but no entries yet. Guess I'm going to be waiting a while. xD But at least my stuff is backed up.
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[personal profile] clauclauclaudia 2017-04-12 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
The queue means that it's not an issue of how many entries *you* have so much as how many total entries all the jobs (users) in front of you in the queue have! The same for comments, except it can't even start on your comments until your entries are there to be commented on. Whee!

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[personal profile] silkensteel 2017-04-12 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
Having had a bit of mainframe experience in my misbegotten youth, I figured exactly what you described. Thank you, y'all are doing great!
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[personal profile] drraug 2017-04-12 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for the warm welcome! I just moved in and I really like it here! Thank you for doing the great job!
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[personal profile] iolarah 2017-04-12 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for this! My import seems to have completed just fine, and I'll be down the hall, settling into my new place.

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[personal profile] jducoeur 2017-04-12 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Just another "thank you". I've been talking DW up to my friends, and one of the primary points I've been making is that it's nice being in a community that so visibly cares about its members...
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[personal profile] lily_everhart 2017-04-12 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Well I'm glad I moved all my stuff months ago when the server change was announced. I'm glad so many people are coming over here though. Hopefully this place will be more active. I've been cross posting to LJ for awhile but deleted when they wanted me to sign that TOS. It's sad since I was on LJ since 2002, but to be honest I've been posting solely to tumblr and DW for awhile mostly because my friends all jumped ship years ago.

Anyway thanks for the updates.
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[personal profile] not_hathor 2017-04-13 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
I started my import a few hours ago.....and just now it says 'Import failed' and Import 'aborted'.... does that mean something went wrong and I have to start again? I imported entries from LJ several years ago, but didn't get my comments, so I was trying to get those and icons this time....

Help?
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[personal profile] not_hathor 2017-04-13 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
Never mind, I think I know what happened. I will try again.
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[personal profile] halfbloodprincess91 2017-04-13 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
You guys are awesome, I just wanted to let you know. It's totally understandable that there's a backup given the circumstance. I'm just so happy you guys have made it so simple to import from lj. <3
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[personal profile] electricfool 2017-04-13 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
hey, thanks! i honestly hadn't used my lj properly in years, yet had my final straw and was so happy to see the import function. i was able to get mine in and done, so thank you! i now don't have to worry about my old entries/diary being permanently deleted.

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