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Denise ([staff profile] denise) wrote in [site community profile] dw_maintenance2012-02-22 01:47 am

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lethe1: (lom: confused)

[personal profile] lethe1 2012-02-22 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Do screenreader users only get to hear the description, or also the keyword(s) and comments?

I usually pick a keyword that describes the general mood of the icon, and use the comments section to name the show and character(s), if applicable, and to give credit. I wouldn't want to put it all in one field, and I hope the comments section doesn't disappear altogether.

I'm one of those who haven't filled in the descriptions, because I have NO idea what to put there. Do I put the show's name? The character, or the actor's name? What would be a good description of the icon I'm using here, for instance?
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[personal profile] ninetydegrees 2012-02-22 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't answer your questions but I just wanted to mention the FAQ about description if you haven't read it already as it has helpful pointers about what to put in the description, imo.
Edited 2012-02-22 23:17 (UTC)
lethe1: (lom: smile!)

[personal profile] lethe1 2012-02-23 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for the link!
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[personal profile] deborah 2012-02-23 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
screenreader users get "username: description (keyword), comment".

The FAQ [personal profile] ninetydegrees links to is a great resource. For the icon you are using there, think about what are the important features you want to let people know about if they can't see the icon. You might use the icon for different reasons at different times, but what's the most common for your use of it? Some suggestions might be:

  • "Sam from Life on Mars" (if you primarily use this just as a general fandom or character icon)
  • "Sam from Life on Mars looking confused" (if you use this as a confusion icon)
  • "Man's face reflected in a windshield" (if this is your icon for when you feel reflective, and you don't particularly care about the fandom or the character)
  • "Manchester, with Sam from Life on Mars" (if this is part of your icon set about great images from Manchester)


As you can see, it's context dependent, and there is no one right answer. Web Accessibility in Mind has a great resource on alt text with an easy-to-understand section called "Context Is Everything".
lethe1: (lom: uncertain smile)

[personal profile] lethe1 2012-02-23 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for your suggestions and the link to that great article. I understand it a little bit better now, but I'm still somewhat confused. If screenreader users also get the keyword and comment information, wouldn't anything repeated in the description be redundant?

F.e., I prefer the description "Sam from Life on Mars looking confused", but that can also be deduced from the keyword and comment. Wouldn't it then be better to literally describe what is in the icon and say "Man's face reflected in a windshield"?

If I do this at all I want to do it right :)
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[personal profile] eien_herrison 2012-03-04 11:12 am (UTC)(link)
(Late comment, I know.)

Speaking for myself, I prefer repetition to a lack of description. Taking from the random icon attached to this post, the information I've given it is:

Keywords: Lion King 2 Group
Comment: Made by [community profile] eeveelutions
Description: Simba, Nala, Kiara, Kovu (Lion King 2) on Pride Rock looking out at their kingdom

There is some repetition, and on hover-over it comes out as "eien-herrison: Lion King 2 Group (Simba, Nala, Kiara, Kovu (Lion King 2) on Pride Rock looking out at their kingdom)", (taking out the comment field which will be removed next code-push) but I think/hope the description expands on the keywords instead of simply repeating them.