code push shortly

[mark]

Hi -- the code push I promised earlier today will be starting in about 10 minutes. The site will be completely down for approximately 15 minutes while I do some database updates.

In happy news, the new search system finished its final tweaks and updates as of a little while ago so it's ready to go. When the site comes back up, you will be able to visit the search page (linked in the Explore menu) and search over 2.1 million entries that are public and currently searchable.

A further 900,000 entries are public but will not be in the search index because we have automatically detected your current "minimize my journal's inclusion in search engines" setting. If, after the code push, you would like to make your entries available to site search, you can visit the Manage Account page, Privacy tab, and make that change. Your entries will show up in the index within the following 24 hours.

I'll update this post when the push has been completed, and any issues you run up against should be posted here. Thank you!

Edit: Update complete. Please let us know of any breakages or anything weird!

Comments

[florahart]

So, by allowing my entries to be searched, I am not making them show up in other search engines, only the dreamwidth one, right? I'm pretty sure I think that's what you said, just checking.

[denise]

Yes, the "Global Search Inclusion" field only applies to Dreamwidth. "Minimize my journal's inclusion in search engine results" is for external search. I'm gonna go clear up the language a bit to make that clearer!

[florahart]

Ah, good. This was what I understood the discussion here to say, but the word global seems, you know, more bigger than the unmodified 'search engines' in the minimize inclusion thing.

So, global means, anyone searching on Dreamwidth will find public entries; searching a specific journal (that I can restrict to my access list or just me?) means not from a site search but from ...hm. Somewhere else? And will include entries they can see? Or...? I totally meant to ask these questions earlier.

[denise]

I just changed a bunch of the setting labels and options; does that make it clearer to you?

Also, your question should be answered if you take a look at http://www.dreamwidth.org/search -- both site & journal search use the same interface, just with a radio button. The "Searching your journal" drop-down in the Privacy tab of Account Settings is what governs that.

[florahart]

Hee, I just looked, and yes, that's clearer.

Okay, so, I see that, and I see that I can choose MY journal, or all of DW. However, I don't see how I could search anyone ELSE's journal from there. I mean, it says

O Site Search (Public Entries) O Journal Search: florahart

There is no way to change that florahart that I can see. So, I see how to search the site in general, for public entries, and how to search me (which I continue to love), What I don't know is, does that mean it's just that no one but me has given me that permission? This is possible, especially if many people on my reading list have generally minimized search engine inclusion and thus are defaulted to not being site-wide-searchable.

[denise]

Oh! My fault; I was confused!

If you have access to search another user's journal, it will appear as a link on that user's profile -- there's no way (yet!) to just search among your circle from the search page, and to search someone else's account involves a URL change.

For instance, check this: http://dw-suggestions.dreamwidth.org/profile

Last element of the interaction menu (on the left in most site schemes) is "Search For Entries". Clicking that brings you to http://www.dreamwidth.org/search?user=dw_suggestions

o Site Search (Public Entries) o Journal Search: dw_suggestions

So the journal being searched changes.

[florahart]

Ah, well that makes sense. I just didn't know what journal to look at to check for that being the case. Thanks!

[alchemise]

I had a question about the language too. The option about who can search your journal, does "everyone" mean everyone with a Dreamwidth account, every paid user, or everyone including people who don't have accounts?

Thanks!

[denise]

Users with accounts.

(I should also specify, since mark reminded me -- someone involved needs to have a paid account: either the journal being searched, or the account doing the searching. So, if your account is paid, and you have "any logged-in user can search" set, anybody can search it; if the journal you're looking at isn't paid, but your account is, you can search it; if both you and the journal you're looking at aren't paid, nobody can search it.)

[alchemise]

Great, that makes sense! Thanks for the speedy answer!

[denise]

Happy to be of service!

[ridicully]

I have no idea if this is connected, but approximately since this code push, the option to disable cut tags on the reading page and/or in individual journals is kind of messed up.
Only enabling it for reading pages has no effect, but enabling it for journals gives the same result as if one were to choose to enable it for both.

Just thought I'd mention it somewhere. Sorry.

[ninetydegrees]

I second this. I have it set to 'Reading Pages only' and it's stopped working.

[yvi]

Ouups, sorry, my fault. I am working on a fix.

[james]

Please let us know of any breakages or anything weird!

My friends are weird. Can you do anything about that?

[mark]

Hmmmmm, I don't know. That's not a service we currently offer. Maybe we should. :)

[ariadneelda]

Just wanted to say the new search system is awesome. :)

[yourlibrarian]

That's great that we'll be able to allow searching from other DW accounts but still have outside search engines blocked. Thanks!

[cypher]

I am not sure if this is code-push related, but -- I have the setting on to display all journal pages in my style, and it looks like it no longer works when clicking on cut tags; i.e., if I go to an individual journal entry by the cut link instead of the reply link, it doesn't add the "style=mine" anymore.

Thanks for all your hard work on the site!

[mark]

Yep, that's related. We've got a bug filed and will get it fixed!

[goddessdster]

I first noticed this Saturday night, but it's still happening: Whenever I click on my username to check out my own page, I get the downtime notice. ???

Thanks!

[mark]

Odd. Your journal loads fine for me. Try holding down Shift and clicking Refresh when you see the maintenance page?

[goddessdster]

That did it! Thanks for being so smart! And quick.