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Denise ([staff profile] denise) wrote in [site community profile] dw_maintenance2017-04-10 05:53 am

The importer is still running, we swear! It's just very busy.

People who are worried because the import of their LiveJournal account has been running for a long time with no real signs of progress: please don't be concerned! The import queue is currently a little long. (In the same way that Mt Everest is a little tall and the Mariana Trench is a little deep.) We're limited in how many import jobs we can run simultaneously and how quickly we can start the next import after one finishes: LiveJournal, like all sites, has restrictions on how frequently we can programmatically request data from their site, so the import queue can get very backed up at times like this when more imports are being started than are finishing. If you look at the import queue and the numbers don't seem to be changing much, or are only going up, it doesn't mean that no imports are finishing: it means a lot of additional people have scheduled an import since the last time you reloaded.

As long as you haven't gotten a failure message in your on-site inbox, your import is still running. (Even if you have gotten a failure message, your import may still be running: if the site thinks that the failure is something that might correct itself, like being unable to connect to the remote site, it will retry for a few times before giving up.) If you have gotten a failure message, the error message in your inbox should tell you what went wrong.

The three common problems right now: 1) you mistyped your username and/or password; 2) you need to agree to LiveJournal's new ToS before they'll permit you to access the data in your account; 3) an entry or entries in your LiveJournal account have a text encoding mismatch and you need to follow the link in the error message to fix it on LJ.

If you haven't gotten a failure message, your import is still waiting in the queue, and will run when it makes its way up to the top of the queue.

People keep asking us how long the queue is (by which they mean, how much time will it take for a job just started to successfully finish: length of time, not number of jobs waiting). I would love to be able to give you a definite answer! It's really, really hard for us to predict how long it will take for a job to get up to the top of the queue, though: how long an import takes to complete depends on a lot of things, including how many posts/comments are in the journal. To give you a ballpark figure that might be off by up to 100% on either side: If I personally started a brand new import right now (in my timezone, the early morning of Monday 10 Apr), I would be pleasantly surprised if it finished before Tuesday morning (24 hours or so), would expect it to finish sometime on Tuesday night or maybe even stretch all the way to Wednesday night (36-60 hours), and wouldn't start to wonder if I should poke [staff profile] mark or [personal profile] alierak to doublecheck that something hadn't gotten stuck in such a way that our monitoring didn't alert us about it until Thursday afternoon or evening (100+ hours).

All of those time estimates, by the way, assume a relatively uncomplicated job that succeeds on the first try. When the site tries again after a failure, it includes a delay that increases after each failure in case the failure was due to transient network issues. So, I know some of you started an import at the end of last week and it's still running: some of you are trying to import very large journals, and some of you ran into errors along the way and are in a retry wait loop. Again: if you haven't gotten the final error message in your inbox (and it will tell you it's the final error), it's still chugging along.

You do not have to leave the importer page open or stay logged into Dreamwidth until your import finishes. (You do have to avoid changing your LJ password until the job is done, or it will fail.) You can close the window/tab and go off and explore Dreamwidth; the movers will be along in a little while with your stuff.

The tl;dr version of my usual longwinded babble: IMPORTER VERY BUSY. MANY PEOPLE MOVING IN. LIKE ON DORM OR APARTMENT MOVE-IN DAY, FREIGHT ELEVATORS VERY SLOW. BUILDING OWNERS RUNNING FREIGHT ELEVATORS AS FAST AS POSSIBLE AND APOLOGIZE FOR THE WAIT.

A housewarming glass of champagne/sparkling cider/fancy handmade soda for all! Welcome to the neighborhood.

EDIT, 10 Apr 2017 7:15PM EDT: the importer is not the only thing that is very busy today! I'm trying to get to all the comments here, but keep getting dragged off to handle other stuff (and will be knocking off for the night soon). If you have a technical support problem, it will probably be faster to open a support request, where there's less likelihood that it will get overlooked in the sea of comments.
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[personal profile] sanguinity 2017-04-12 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
We managed to get [community profile] holmestice into the queue around noontime on the first day, and it still took twenty hours all told. Last couple of times I checked queue length, the queue was three times as long (gauged by number of accounts waiting to import entries) as when Holmestice was in it. I haven't tried importing my personal journal yet, as I've been running [personal profile] sanguinity and [livejournal.com profile] sanguinity in parallel for years now, and figure I can wait until the rush dies down a bit.
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[personal profile] drraug 2017-04-12 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for the warm welcome! I just moved in and I really like it here! Thank you for doing the great job!
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[personal profile] syntaxofthings 2017-04-12 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha, I'm barely doing anything; you're the ones that give an extra 10% of the points you buy in December that I then store to send to random users. ;) I did look at gifting a random user, but then I used my own method of randomness. Thanks!
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Re: Kind and polite

[personal profile] nodrog 2017-04-12 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)


Yet this always happens when a company - which can be two people! - becomes a Corporation.  The founder's vision is pushed aside by Policy Wonks, as are the people who supported it in the early days.  It becomes an insulated bureaucracy.

This very thing happened when Wal-Mart became Walmart Inc.  There may have been a “cult of personality” involved with Sam Walton, but the whole concept of the “Wal-Mart Family” and indeed, the very idea of calling the rank-and file employees “associates” to indicate that they, too, played a role and had a say - this has been utterly lost.

Smaller is better, when the people you serve, your market, matter to you.

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[personal profile] iolarah 2017-04-12 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for this! My import seems to have completed just fine, and I'll be down the hall, settling into my new place.
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[personal profile] saki101 2017-04-12 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
And hooray for that!
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[personal profile] saki101 2017-04-12 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm so pleased you did. I thought of all the fic and discussions that various communities contain and realised importing my own journal was not going to be enough.
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[personal profile] sanguinity 2017-04-12 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm so relieved that the community approved of us backing the comm up to DW. All things equal, I prefer to ask before republishing people's works on a second site, but it did feel like there was some urgency.

Many people have been working hard this last week to import and archive things, here and on AO3 both, and I've seen discussions, too, about how to save the journals of deceased fans or now-abandoned communities. I'm not so optimistic as to believe we'll save everything, but I do hope we'll be able to minimize our losses.
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[personal profile] jducoeur 2017-04-12 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Just another "thank you". I've been talking DW up to my friends, and one of the primary points I've been making is that it's nice being in a community that so visibly cares about its members...
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[personal profile] wonsraed 2017-04-12 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess I'll just check every now and then. But no worries I can wait~ I know that you're swarmed :)

Thank you very much for your replies!
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[personal profile] lily_everhart 2017-04-12 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Well I'm glad I moved all my stuff months ago when the server change was announced. I'm glad so many people are coming over here though. Hopefully this place will be more active. I've been cross posting to LJ for awhile but deleted when they wanted me to sign that TOS. It's sad since I was on LJ since 2002, but to be honest I've been posting solely to tumblr and DW for awhile mostly because my friends all jumped ship years ago.

Anyway thanks for the updates.
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Re: Kind and polite

[personal profile] archangelbeth 2017-04-13 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
As policies go, that's not the worst! O:D
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[personal profile] not_hathor 2017-04-13 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
I started my import a few hours ago.....and just now it says 'Import failed' and Import 'aborted'.... does that mean something went wrong and I have to start again? I imported entries from LJ several years ago, but didn't get my comments, so I was trying to get those and icons this time....

Help?
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[personal profile] halfbloodprincess91 2017-04-13 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
You guys are awesome, I just wanted to let you know. It's totally understandable that there's a backup given the circumstance. I'm just so happy you guys have made it so simple to import from lj. <3
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[personal profile] not_hathor 2017-04-13 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
Never mind, I think I know what happened. I will try again.
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[personal profile] electricfool 2017-04-13 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
hey, thanks! i honestly hadn't used my lj properly in years, yet had my final straw and was so happy to see the import function. i was able to get mine in and done, so thank you! i now don't have to worry about my old entries/diary being permanently deleted.
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[personal profile] achacunsagloire 2017-04-13 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, okay, thank you for explaining. I just got all of my entries, so now I'm waiting on my comments.
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[personal profile] achacunsagloire 2017-04-13 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
Hi Denise,

Thanks for responding and for the info. I actually just got my entries today, so now I'm waiting on my comments. :)
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[personal profile] redsgoddes 2017-04-13 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you!
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[personal profile] redsgoddes 2017-04-13 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you too!!
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Thank you!

[personal profile] technomom 2017-04-13 11:25 am (UTC)(link)
As one of those who imported successfully this week, I just wanted to say thank you very much! (No worries about replying - this doesn't need one!)

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