dw_maintenance: Code update

Mark Smith (

mark) wrote in

dw_maintenance,
@ 2009-04-20 00:47:00

Code update

Code was just updated. In particular, this update brings the alpha version (first release) of the crossposter tool. This release also brings a change to the way we do adult content to bring it more in line with our goals for the site. More information on the adult content change.

Please keep in mind that this is Closed Beta. As such, we're iterating quickly, and releasing early. There will be bugs, that's a promise.

Please let us know what issues you find so we can fix them up!

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	Question 900degrees 2009-04-20 08:12 am UTC (link)
	Can the crossposter tool work retroactively (I mean on entries you've already posted)? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: Question damned_colonial 2009-04-20 08:31 am UTC (link)
	Someone was saying it works on edits, so... maybe? Try it? You might have to edit each post, make a small change, and tick the crosspost box. (Reply to this) (Thread from start)(Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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	northern 2009-04-20 08:22 am UTC (link)
	Clicking on the button on http://www.dreamwidth.org/manage/settings/?cat=othersites to add an account results in no reaction. (Reply to this) (Thread)(Expand)

	northern 2009-04-20 08:24 am UTC (link)
	I'm on Internet Explorer (at work) if that's relevant information. ;P (Reply to this) (Thread from start)(Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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florahart
2009-04-20 08:22 am UTC (link)

The crossposter tool brings a message that says I will be notified upon success of crosspostage. Really? (I mean, apparently no, not really; the cross-post works, including with edit, but I have neither email nor inbox message, and I see noting in notifications to control this and there's not a FAQ yet).

Uh, not that I'm irritated at the lack of documentation or anything; I imagine it's coming and also that the documenting folks have Plenty To Do. Just, I wondered if I could expect to get emails for every cross-post, if it was an option that would be turn-onable and offable, etc.

Also, this is a very cool feature.

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	damned_colonial 2009-04-20 08:32 am UTC (link)
	It doesn't appear to notify, at least at present, and I hope it is turn-off-able if it does start to. (Reply to this) (Thread from start)(Parent)

	sarken 2009-04-20 08:25 am UTC (link)
	Nifty! Giving it a shot. :) (Reply to this)

	rydra_wong 2009-04-20 08:34 am UTC (link)
	This release also brings a change to the way we do adult content What's the change? (Reply to this) (Thread)(Expand)

	mochi 2009-04-20 08:41 am UTC (link)
	I'm wondering this too. The post options seem to be the same... is it something about how you choose to view it? (Reply to this) (Thread from start)(Parent)

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montanaharper
2009-04-20 08:46 am UTC (link)

Possibly this is Working As Intended, but it seems odd to me that the crossposter tool strips out all LJ-specific formatting codes, even ones that are using valid syntax for the site being crossposted to (e.g., cut tags in the form of <lj-cut>).

Less unexpectedly, this applies to usernames also, even when using the <lj user="x" site="y"> format where y matches the site being crossposted to. If that kind of smart crossposting isn't part of the plan for current crossposter tool functionality (and I have no idea how much work it would be or if there'd be any interest in it beyond my own) that's cool.

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	fairestcat 2009-04-20 01:39 pm UTC (link)
	I was just about to comment on this. < lj user=user site=site.com > works when manually crossposting, so I'd hoped it would work with auto-crossposting as well. (Reply to this) (Thread from start)(Parent)

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	jmtorres 2009-04-20 08:59 am UTC (link)
	I'm interested in being able to write my own default "point back to DW" text for entries cross-posted with comments disabled. Will that be possible in future releases? (Reply to this) (Thread)(Expand)

	copracat 2009-04-20 11:30 am UTC (link)
	I would like to be able to edit the DW comment pointer as well. (Reply to this) (Thread from start)(Parent)

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	ratcreature 2009-04-20 09:04 am UTC (link)
	This is very cool! I just tried on to x-post on LJ/IJ and it worked great, and editing the post worked too. (Reply to this)

unnique
2009-04-20 09:17 am UTC (link)

So far, so good! Crossposting to lj seems to work instantly, at least for my simple post-and-edit test. :D

Notifications, I got none. Personally, I think it'd be more useful to be notified when something doesn't work. Turn on/turn off for notifications would be very useful, to echo the posters above. :)

Edit:

* Deletion by crosspost works like a charm, hooray!

* Editing a post that I imported from lj, however, resulted in a new lj post, right next to the original. First post (in lj) is unchanged, the second one contains the added words.

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	allen 2009-04-20 03:44 pm UTC (link)
	Editing a post that I imported from lj, however, resulted in a new lj post Oh, yeah, the crossposter only works forward, mapping messages on DW to another site. It's not integrated with the importer. (Though, mark, that might be worth considering....) (Reply to this) (Thread from start)(Parent)

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	xwingace 2009-04-20 09:26 am UTC (link)
	I've just tried to add my LJ account in the settings tab as an account to crosspost to. But when I click 'Add New Account', nothing happens. (Free Account, IE7, Vista Home Premium) XWA (Reply to this) (Thread)

	karen2205 2009-04-20 10:27 am UTC (link)
	The same thing happens to me when I try clicking 'new account' - but I can select it a different way, by tabbing through all the clickable links and pressing enter when I reach the button, to get to the manage external account page. Also using IE7 on Windows XP Pro Service pack 3. (Reply to this) (Thread from start)(Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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miss_s_b
2009-04-20 09:48 am UTC (link)

The crossposter is cool. It would be nice to have it be able to crosspost to communities, but I realise that this is probably way down your list of priorities.

Also, a tiny tweak? Can the word OpenID in This entry was originally posted at http://miss-s-b.dreamwidth.org/880089.html. Please comment there using OpenID. be made into a link to the OpenID page?

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	copracat 2009-04-20 11:34 am UTC (link)
	I thought perhaps: Please comment there using OpenID. (Register your OpenID here.) Or something else that makes it clear you don't click on the OpenID link to comment. (Reply to this) (Thread from start)(Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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	jetsam 2009-04-20 10:34 am UTC (link)
	Clicking the 'Add New Account' button had no response for me but I could proceed successfully when using the direct link http://www.dreamwidth.org/manage/externalaccount.bml given by florahart. I'm running IE, if that makes a difference. (Reply to this)

900degrees
2009-04-20 10:39 am UTC (link)

Issues I noticed:

Cut content doesn't stay cut because of the different markup between sites I guess so you have to be careful about what you post. A warning about this may be useful.

It doesn't always work for old entries: you tick the boxes, get the message but if you edit the entry again, the boxes are not ticked. I'm using Firefox 3.0.8 on Win Vista Pro SP1. Not that I really care. I'm just very glad it works well for new entries.:) Thank you.

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	alsatia 2009-04-20 12:55 pm UTC (link)
	Once the cut tags are working properly, I wonder if it would be possible to have an option to cut the crossposted entry while leaving the full text visible on Dreamwidth. (Reply to this) (Thread from start)(Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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tajasel
2009-04-20 11:09 am UTC (link)

Probably more worthy of a coolhunters post, but it seems relevant to this, so - any possibility of being able to cross-post to a filter?

i.e. make a public post here, but the crossposted entry ends up on a filter?

I'm thinking probably not, but it would be very useful if it is possible as I don't want to x-post at the moment to save the annoyance of those who read both my DW and my LJ - but I have some people saying "but now I'll never get to see your posts!" because checking DW themselves for my posts, nor subscribing via RSS, nor tracking my journal quite work for them.

Not urgent, though, I understand - just pitching it in as a It Would Be Very Shiny If... thing for future consideration.

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	nafs 2009-04-20 12:01 pm UTC (link)
	I do notice that it obeys the default posting settings on each site. ie, currently my default setting on DW is public but my default setting on LJ is friends-only, and the crossposter obeyed that. (Reply to this) (Thread from start)(Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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dzurlady
2009-04-20 11:59 am UTC (link)

I cross posted, and it worked quite well. I don't have icons over here yet to test how they transfer, but I used a tag here than I don't have on lj and the lj entry made a new tag.

The two problems I had were that
1) I didn't have my account set up for cross posting. I set it up, which was easy, but then there's no link back to your entry. I hit back a few times, then refreshed and reentered the title when I restored from draft, and posted without incident. It's pretty minor because you wouldn't set it up that often, but maybe a link back to 'post an entry' on the page?

2) There is a clicky box after "Crosspost this entry" and before "Manage accounts" and then lower down a clicky box before "dzurlady@livejournal.com". I wasn't sure which one to click. (Turns out the dzurlady on is the one to tick. Manage accounts doesn't seem to do anything?) I didn't try selecting both.

dzurlady@LiveJournal

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	dzurlady 2009-04-20 12:15 pm UTC (link)
	Ooh, and when I edited the DW post the other one was also edited. Very cool. When I edited a post on DW where I had deleted the crossposted post, I still got the 'Crosspost requested to dzurlady@LiveJournal. You will be notified when this attempt has completed' message even though it didn't crosspost the edit, what with the post being gone. (Reply to this) (Thread from start)(Parent)

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	nafs 2009-04-20 12:07 pm UTC (link)
	This isn't a feature I'd want myself but I think the question's going to come up - will the crossposter be able to be tweaked so that if a user doesn't want Dreamwidth to save their LJ password, they will have the option to enter their password each time they crosspost? (Reply to this) (Thread)(Expand)

	trobadora 2009-04-20 03:33 pm UTC (link)
	Yes, that. (Reply to this) (Thread from start)(Parent)

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	You probably already have this one, but: catchmyfancy 2009-04-20 12:19 pm UTC (link)
	I embedded a couple of youtube videos and then cross-posted to my LJ. The cross-post worked (yay!) but then I looked a little harder and the videos were ones I posted months ago. Different ones. Entirely. And not even the most recent ones. Very dada-esque. Have fun sorting that one out. (I fixed the LJ post, sorry). (Reply to this) (Thread)(Expand)

	Re: You probably already have this one, but: allen 2009-04-20 04:43 pm UTC (link)
	You need to turn off the 'surrealist media embedding' option. ;) No, really, we didn't know about that, though that's what was threatening to happen with polls before we replaced them with links back to the original. So I can't say that I'm that surprised. (Reply to this) (Thread from start)(Parent)

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azurelunatic, 2009-04-21 07:31 am UTC (Expand)

Sorry - should have clarified

catchmyfancy
2009-04-20 12:25 pm UTC (link)

Have only had DW account for a few days, so the youtube vids I am talking about were ones I posted on my **LJ** some months ago, and they were what popped up in the cross-post, instead of the ones I had embedded here on DW.

Don't know if that's a DW issue or an LJ issue.

Incidentally, cross-posting tool VERY cool, dead easy to set up and even easier to use. It said something about a notification, but, meh, I trust you folks. :)

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	Re: Sorry - should have clarified matgb 2009-04-20 05:27 pm UTC (link)
	Were the older videos on posts on the same page you were looking at? Reason I ask is that there is a known issue where LJ embedded content calls the same embed file for every vid on a page—if it happens again, try checking the actual post and hitting ctrl+f5, that might fix it. (Reply to this) (Thread from start)(Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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afuna, 2009-04-20 05:34 pm UTC (Expand)

Works like a dream - yay!

samvara
2009-04-20 12:51 pm UTC (link)

Adding a new account was easy and intuitive, I like how you can set defaults then manage them as you post.

Crossposting picked up title, tags, bolded text, numbered lists, usernames common to LJ+DW and URLs.

Didn't notify on success - agree option to turn off or notify on fail would be good.

Broke LJ-cut ("/lj-cut" jumped up a few lines) but I think this is an LJ-rich text editor problem because it does it to me on LJ anyway if "lj user=x" is present.

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Re: Works like a dream - yay!

samvara
2009-04-20 02:25 pm UTC (link)

OK, I had a duplicate entry created on DW when the LJ 'clone' post was commented on.

1. Post to DW and crosspost to LJ
2. Receive a comment on LJ post
3. Look at http://samvara.dreamwidth.org/ and note duplicate entry - one with the comment on it, one without
4. Delete DW entry with zero comments
5. Observe LJ post is now deleted as well
6. Laugh
7. Edit + Save DW post
8. Entry reposted to LJ (raw, without comment attached)

1. Attempt to reproduce (see http://samvara.dreamwidth.org/386028.html and http://black-samvara.livejournal.com/424777.html). No duplicate as yet - is there some sort of scheduled job running that tries to synch them up?

I am really freakin impressed if the plan is to keep the cross-posted entries in synch.

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samvara, 2009-04-22 05:42 am UTC (Expand)

Suggestion

lizw
2009-04-20 01:13 pm UTC (link)

I'd like the ability to cross-post to more than one site, but leave comments enabled on some sites and disabled on others. For instance, at the moment I'm still checking my LJ inbox regularly, but not my IJ one - so I'd like to be able to cross-post to LJ with comments on, but direct comments from IJ to DW. At the moment, it looks like that isn't an option. Is it something that could be considered?

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	i was promised bugs and all i got was this lousy crossposter tree 2009-04-20 01:14 pm UTC (link)
	which is to say, it all worked perfectly - posting and editing/deleting - apart from the lack of notification, as others have said. hugs crossposter (Reply to this)

	akatonbo 2009-04-20 01:31 pm UTC (link)
	On poking around I see that the actual posting page and settings page still say 14+/18+ with nary a NSFW in sight. (Reply to this)

paperweight
2009-04-20 01:44 pm UTC (link)

I think the cross-posting is pretty cool! Are there plans to be able to cross-post to other accounts/comms on DW?

Neither of my cross-post have (so far) turned up at inksome -- I donno if that's a problem with inksome or the cross-posting tool. The box is always unchecked when I look back, even though it was checked before posting.

I like that the tags get added the other journals and wish the mood did too.

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	allen 2009-04-20 05:40 pm UTC (link)
	I like that the tags get added the other journals and wish the mood did too. Hmm. It's supposed to support mood, and I think it used to work for me. Will have to look into that. (Reply to this) (Thread from start)(Parent)

beck_liz
2009-04-20 01:57 pm UTC (link)

Crossposting is nifty and works well for me, except for the aforementioned problem with Internet Explorer 6 and trying to click the button to get to http://www.dreamwidth.org/manage/externalaccount.bml.

One question: is it currently feasible to post to more than one account? Because I added my LJ account fine and posted fine, but then when I went to try to add my InsaneJournal account, I could enter the IJ account info, but then when I clicked "Create" nothing happened. Could this be another unfortunate side effect of using IE 6? (Stupid work hasn't upgraded us yet, even though they've been promising for months!)

However, yay for crossposting!!! Thank you so much!

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	azurelunatic 2009-04-21 07:41 am UTC (link)
	From the comments in the original bug, try hitting http://www.dreamwidth.org/misc/beta and upgrading your account type, then trying that again. (That tool works only for the duration of closed beta.) I think I recall seeing something like 1 crosspost site for free accounts; that may be what you're running into. (Reply to this) (Thread from start)(Parent)

	washington_irving 2009-04-20 01:58 pm UTC (link)
	This has been brought up before, but the only problem I'm having so far is with "lj-cut". On cross-posting to LJ the tags are completely stripped from the entry. (Reply to this)

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